Wilson DP15 is named after Boston Redsox second baseman Dustin Pedroia.
He may not be big in size, but he plays BIG.
As one of the greatest second baseman ever, he deserves his own game model.
DP15 pattern's most distinctive feature is 'tight hand stall'.
Pedroia has small hands apparently, and he prefers tight fit.
So, if you prefer small hand stall like Pedey, this is the glove for you.
You can just tell the difference right away.
I will elaborate more later.
DP15 models come in 11.5inch thesedays, but there was a time when
it came in 11.75 inch. Most second baseman in MLB use 11.5inch glove, but Pedroia used 11.75 inch glove for some reason.
As an amateur infielder, I don't feel so secure with 11.5inch gloves,
so I always loved his older models.
This glove is Wilson A2K DP15-C (C means camel color)
0. briefly on Wilson A2K vs A2000
Wilson's flagship line up is called A2K.
It's funny how they named their lineups.
(K which means 1000, makes A2K the same meaning as A2000.)
A2000 is Wilson's flagship model too, but A2K is simply their most prestigious line up.
(Also more expensive too)
All A2K are made in Japan.
While most A2000s in the market are made in Vietnam nowadays.
A2K and A2000 are both made of Pro Stock leather.
The only difference is that A2K is Pro Stock Select. It means it's the best of Pro Stock leather. (Pro stock leather is a steerhide leather from Japan.)
Long story short, the same leather, but A2K uses the best parts of it.
1. Leather
A2000 camel leather gave me nothing but disappointment. (to be reviewed)
But A2K certainly made me smile.
A2K's leather certainly feels much smoother and durable than A2000.
(Usually feels heavier and thicker too. but this accounts to thicker padding)
This Infield glove has a lot of wear and mileage on it.
Some natural cracks here and there too. But the lining inside is smooth.
After all this time, holding good shape, very firm and smells nice too.
The camel leather of A2K is just stunning.
Leather on A2000 fluctuates a little, but A2K is reliable.
(Still, the black leather is simply the best for Wilson gloves)
2. Padding
A2K is much thicker than A2000. So some people do not like it.
In my humble opinion, the thickness of A2K is
due to the thicker padding, not the leather itself.
So A2K takes longer time to break in, but holds it's shape longer.
And in many cases, A2K feels heavier than A2000.
On top of that, A2K gloves are dual palm structured.
(Do you see those dots on the palm? That's what dual palm inserts looks like.)
The structure will help the glove keep it's pocket in shape for longer.
However, some people prefer single palm gloves so they can feel the ball better.
I used to prefer single palm gloves, but A2K's dual palm structure gives me no discomfort at all. ( I use my gloves two in the pinky now. so it doesn't really matter any more)
So, if you get an A2K and maintain it with care, the pocket will keep it's shape for very long time.
May not be important, but I think this accounts to that loud pop sound when you catch the ball with Wilson A2K models.
3. Lacing and Webbing
A2K has thicker lacing than A2000 too.
I don't feel much quality difference in lacing really.
A2K and A2000 both has good lacing.
(But A2K's lacing is more reliable and thicker. A2000's lacing feels a bit dry)
Another I-web infield glove from Wilson..
Not much to say about it.
Like I have mentioned before, I had used Wilson A2000 1787 for very long time and I kind of got sick of the looks of it.
Neverthelss, the I-webs thesedays have double lacing structure.
I believe this will help I-webs keep it's good depth of the pocket and avoid tragedy of baseball penetrating the web or getting stuck in the glove.
4. DP15 Pattern
Feels similar to 1787 and 1786 pattern.
Square, nice standard depth and width of the pocket.
Compared to 1787 and 1786, DP15 has less padding in the palm,
and tighter hand stall.
Offers better control of the glove, but if you have got huge hands, you will suffer... I can assure you. So for those of you with big hands, get 1786 or 1787 instead.
If you are used to Rawlings Pro200 pattern,
17886,1787,DP15 should be fine.
DW5 pattern feels more similar, but DW5 is 12inch glove.
On the other hand, if you prefer gloves with shallow pocket like Rawlings TT2 or NP pattern, this glove may be too square or deep for you.
Overall, flawless infield glove pattern.
However, the DP15 pattern had some major changes over the last 2years, and 11.75 inch is not available anymore.
A bad news for those players with small hands.
To make things worse, Pedroia is suffering injuries and may retire in few years.
Wonder what Wilson will do with the pattern after Pedey retires.
5. Scores
Leather 4.0/5
Pattern 4.0/5
Colors 3.8/5
Satisfaction 3.0/5
Looks and Feel 3.0/5
Overall 3.8/5
Wilson A2K DP15 review -small hand stall, Infield glove, 11.75inch, I-web, camel [Baseball Glove review]
By Iscreamtruck
If you are interested in Wilson A2000 1787;
https://svcatch.blogspot.com/2018/07/glove-review-wilson-a2000-1787pattern.html
Funny thing about baseball glove leather is that,
depending on the color of the leather, their charactaristics differ quite much.
In most cases, different leather colors only mean difference, not one better than the other. But, as for some brands' leather, different colors mean different quality.
This usually occurs for cheaper gloves. Darker color is often better than the brighter color leather. It might be because to make bright colors, you have to decolor the leather before you dye it. (The leather is grey-ish color in the beginning. You can tell by looking at the edge of your baseball glove. It's often grey. If not, the leather quality is probably not the top notch)
So, to make long story short, if you are not sure about which color you want and you care about leather quality, black leather is the safe choice to be.
Different brands have different leather, so their best leather may not be black.
But Wilson's best color is without a doubt, BLACK.
This I can talk with 100% conviction,
black leather is the best among Wilson gloves.
Even for A2Ks this is for real, but for A2000s, it seems much more evident for me.
So, here's our black A2000 model.
1.Leather & lacing on the glove
Been used a lot for a few years and has significant amount of wear on it,
nonetheless the glove has no severe crack.
Yes it has some little cracks on where you put your index finger,
but still in good condition.
The leather is still moist, not dry.
Doesn't smell bad, actually has decent scent.
Has good popping sound when you play catch.
Smooth surface, yet firm and still strong, keeping good shape.
After A2000s have been produced in Vietnam,
the leather quality fluctuated a lot.
However, you can never go wrong with Wilson's black leather.
Lacing is fine too. Nice and thick.
No negative issue.
Keeping the glove together very well.
2. The Pattern
EL3 pattern comes in 11.75 inch, just like 1787.
It has longer thumb than 1787 and deeper pocket.
Also the pocket seems a bit smaller too.
EL3 is actually the signature model of Evan Longoria who used to be Tempabay Rays 3rd baseman, now playing for SanFrancisco giants.
Your job at the third base, is to be a wall.
Blazing fast balls are coming flying at you.
Securing the ball is an important part, so you are better off with deep pockets.
But if you make your glove pocket to be deep and wide at the same time,
the glove will get too big and heavy in most cases.
Thus, gloves with deeper pocket usually has narrower pocket.
As for EL3, Longoria is a third baseman, has deeper pocket than 1787.
But it's not too deep. (maybe too deep for middle infielders who care a lot about quick transfers)
It's not 12inch like Wilson DW5,
so you could say EL3 pattern is somewhere between 1787 and DW5.
For me, the thumb length is a bit bothering.
I play third base a lot, but really comfortable with EL3 pattern.
This glove was broken in to have shallow flat pocket inspired by Tulowitzki.
Used it traditional, not two in the pinky.
(Thumb to middle finger)
It works fine too, so suit yourself.
3. Webbing
Used to be the only single post (cross web) among Wilson infield gloves.
I webs are just everywhere in MLB infield.
As I posted before, I had used Wilson's I web glove for so long that I do not want to use it again anymore. Cross web was really cool looking.
It forms deeper pocket than I web, but not as deep as a H web would do.
(Weighs lighter than H webs though)
Just like I web, you need to keep good care of the webbing laces.
Especially if you play third base and field a lot of heaters,
the ball may go right through the glove.
This is no joke, it really happens.
And sometimes ball would just get stuck in the web.
Good looking, flexible, light weight web,
but needs some attention and effort to maintain it.
6. Scores
Leather 3.5/5
Pattern 2.0/5
Colors 1/5
Satisfaction 2/5
Looks & Feel 2/5
Overall 2.5/5
Good durable leather, simple design.
But doesn't catch my eyes much.
But doesn't catch my eyes much.
Good quality for its price though.
Recommended for 3rd base
Wilson A2000 EL3 review -Infield, cross web, 11.75inch, all black [Baseball Glove review]
By Iscreamtruck
My favorite baseball gloves brand is Rawlings, no doubt. Not that I don't like Wilson
gloves, but I just love the classy feeling that Rawlings offers me.
It might be the logo. I just love that classy red patch on the glove
and the 'Rawlings' stitched on index finger.
At first, I did not like Rawlings glove at all. It looked too traditional.
Also, their pocket and style of the pattern didn't get to me.
I had to experience balls getting bounced out of my hand when playing catch.
But that all went away when I started using gloves 'two in the pinky'.
For your information, 'two in the pinky' means putting your pinky and ring finger into glove's pinky.(glove's index finger hole is empty)
That way, you generally get deeper pocket and more leverage when you close the glove. (For me, it feels more comfortable to close my front shoulder when pitching too)
In my humble opinion, Rawlings gloves' typical pattern, PRO 200 is better off when you use it two in the pinky because it has deep pocket.
On top of that, my hands are not long nor thick. So it feels kind of insecure when I go traditional with the glove. (each finger for each fingler holes)
If anyone does not prefer Rawlings gloves, I suggest you get a hold of well broken-in,
fairly used Rawlings. You can never hate it.
1. The pattern: Pro200
Nonetheless, pro200 pattern is my favorite pattern.
It's perfect for pitchers because of the pocket's depth.
You never want to tip your pitches right?
The deep pocket allows me to keep the ball well hidden inside the glove.
Other position players can also use it with no problem.
I could recommend this pattern to pretty much any one.
If I have to choose 1 keyword to decrive pro200,
it would be 'Classic'
As a pitcher, when comes to choosing gloves,
'catching' always comes first.
Pitcher not only receive the ball from the catcher,
but also has to take care of the comebackers, bunt ground balls, and first base cover.
If you don't have composure with your glove, how would you deal with these situations?
The pro200 pattern being 'Classic', is just perfect for my criteria.
Deep pocket, perfect for 'two in the pinky'.
That just closed the deal for me.
2. Different webs, Different feel of the glove
Webbing of the glove contributes greatly to the looks.
2 piece web is one of the classics for pitchers and I too love the look of it.
But when it comes down to gaming it, I just can't get used to it.
In my humble opinion,
webs actually do affect the glove's pocket more than it looks.
My favorite glove web is actually H web which helps me form deeper pockets.
(Maybe basket web too)
But 2-piece webs, don't clearly know why, just not the one for me.
What I feel is that, it makes the pocket smaller and not square.
The ball wouldn't 'stick' to my glove no matter what.
I should have formed the pocket a little more close to the palm, Maybe.
3. Palm lining, the Leather, and the Lacing
I was shocked that gamer series also used deer tanned hide as a palm lining just like their Heart of the hides.
It's probably no big deal, but Rawlings sure does their job even when they make cheaper gloves. HOHs are about $250, but Gamer series is only $80.
The leather, it's some sort of U.S. steerhide just like HOH.
The grade of leather maybe different.
Wilson A2000 and A2K are both Pro stock leather, but A2k uses 'selected' Pro stock leather. Probably same sense.
Lacing is also nice and thick. Very reliable.
Started to make me think 'what good is it to pay extra money to buy Heart of the hides?' All I can assume is that maybe the padding inside are not as good.
(It probably won't keep it's form so long like HOH and PP)
Gamer series does not offer many choices in design and colors,
but definitely worth much more than the price.
Plays good, looks good.
Another thing about Rawlings is that it's hard to identify the grade of the glove. There were some parts you can look to identify, but it's gotten difficult.
If you look at them from some distance, or broadcast, not a lot of people can tell the difference.
(Without looking at the palm of course..)
Very nice, very nice for Rawlings to do so.
6. Scores
Leather 2.5/5
Pattern 2/5
Colors 2/5
Satisfaction 2/5
Looks & Feel 2/5
Overall impression 2.0/5
Good glove but not special.
Good quality for its price
Rawlings gamer pro200 Pattern review - pitcher glove, 2 piece web, 11.75 inch, black/tan [Baseball Glove review]
By Iscreamtruck
Everyone has their first love and it's unforgettable
If you have played baseball, you will always remember your first gamer
For me, it was Wilson A2000
1787 pattern infield model
btw, nowadays Wilson A2000 are pretty much all made in Vietnam,
but back in the days, they were made in Japan
Some claim that Wilson A2000 made in Vietnam are no good
compared to those made in Japan
Very controversial topic indeed
What's my opinion? I will cover it later on
Actually it was not my first glove ever, but it was my first gamer
I used it for my college years all the way through
Of course, I had other gloves too but I held on to her
It was already very very soft and got heavier for some reason
Which is very natural for a baseball glove after some period of time
Probably because as glove gets softer, in particular the finger paddings,
it cannot stay strong and keep it's shape
Thus, the whole glove weight starts to fall on the player's hand
Well, I had to let it go not because it got floppy,
but because it started to fall apart
Especially the laces could not take it any more
Used it for several years and gamed it for countless games,
I do have some things to say about it
1. The First impression
When I first got it, it was soft, yet firm
What kind of nonsense am I talking about?
Well, the leather which is the skin of the glove was soft.
However, the paddings inside which are bones of the glove, were firm
11.75 Inch, not too big, not too small
affordable price, good colors
what's more to it?
2. the Leather & lacing
The most different part of wilson a2000 made in Japan, is the scent of the leather
The one that I had smelled quite nice
It did not have that weird chemical smell like the ones that are made nowadays
Maybe it is true that the older ones, especially the ones from Japan have better quality
I heard due to leather prices soaring high, the glovemakers cannot use
those excellent leather like in the past
Instead, they focus on other things to make up for it
such as tanning the leather
After so much use and time,
sure it had some cracks and wear, but did not fall apart or anything
did not have tears either
Since A2000 has thin leather compared to A2K,
the glove leather was very flexible
it was moist till the end, and never got dry
(except for the index finger)
3. Paddings & dual welting
I loved using Wilson ball gloves because of their dual welting
Trust me, unless you bend them constantly,
the dualwelting does keep your glove in shape very well
the leather was floppy as it could get,
and the Wilson A2000 models used to have really soft paddings inside.
(The ones that almost looks like lumps of dust that got formed in a vaccum cleaner)
However, the glove somehow kept it's form very well
Another thing different from A2K models is that
A2000s are single palm gloves.
What is Single palm?
Some gloves have extra layer of leather inside the palm.
By doing so, the glove palm will keep its shape longer and
the damage taken when catching the ball is lessened
But, you sacrifice the control feeling of the glove a little,
and it gets little heavier too
(I will post A2K review later on and discuss this again)
Anyways, my A2000 was single palm glove just like other A2000s
and it got so floppy that I could not even feel the ball where it is at.
This made me feel no pain at all, but also made it difficult to hang on to the glove.
Because as an infielder, it is a key to get the ball out of your glove quickly and transfer
Some food for thought
If you want to have your glove keep it's form and shape longer,
A2K is recommended
But you may not like the feeling of A2Ks when you use them,
like me.
4. 1787 Pattern
1787pattern is simply a bigger version of 1786 which is 11.5inch pattern
A lot of middle infielders, second baseman in particular, love the 1786 pattern
It is also Wilson's most famous pattern developed by Aso, the glove guru.
Back to the pattern, it is not too deep or too shallow.
I don''t have good fielding skills so 11.5 inch glove felt too insecure so I chose 11.75 inch pattern.
It is definitly a nice and easy pattern for any infielder.
But if you are comfortable with 1786 pattern,
you should stick with 1786
1787 tends to have longer thumbs compared to 1786,
and this may give you some discomfort
(FYI, I played third base the most)
(FYI, I played third base the most)
5. I web
After I retired this glove,
I never ever had an I web glove in my life
Not because it's bad or anything.
Only because I just got sick of the looks.
I web tends to give you shallow pocket compared to other webs like H-webs
So you might want to have an I web on shallow patterns to meet your needs
or you could have I web on a pattern with deep pocket to kind of even things up.
Another thing about the I web is, although it is very flexible, but it is certainly
not the most durable webbing out there.
I have seen many guys having to relace it on the webbing.
I web absorbs the shock almost soley on the lacings.
Whereas other gloves usually have the webbing to back it up.
6. Scores
Leather 2.5/5
Pattern 3/5
Colors 2/5
Satisfaction 1/5
Looks & Feel 1/5
Overall impression 2.0/5
Too heavy. Good glove but not special.
Good quality for its price
Wilson A2000 1787 pattern review - Infield glove (made in Japan) [Baseball Glove review]
By Iscreamtruck
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내가 쓰는 글러브가 주로 우중충한 색상이다보니,한 번 산뜻하게 가봤다.
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1. Yellow, Red + Tan lacing
내가 쓰는 글러브가 주로 우중충한 색상이다보니,한 번 산뜻하게 가봤다.
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